Questions Hi, everyone. I think this is my first time posting here, and I come full of questions.
Does anyone have recommendations for training (in Kali/Eskrima) in Los Angeles? Right now, I'm considering the Inosanto Academy in Marina del Rey (pricey, but near me) or Integrated Martial Arts in Long Beach. Does anyone train at either place? Have experiences/recommendations/etc. for either place? It's of course very tempting to go with name recognition and join Inosanto, but does anyone have experience with the other instructors there? Obviously, I will also visit both places to make sure that we're a good fit for one another.
Also, does anyone train in Sayoc Kali? Is it a style that's better for advanced students, or can someone who's pretty new to FMA learn it?
wedge,trap,backhand ok, this is kind of a break through for me so bear with me. Since I started Panatukan I have had the biggest trouble getting my way through any kind of wedge/trap/x combination. I use the wrong hand or don't do the trap right or whatevr...unitl last tuesday! I finally was able to do wedge/trap/backhands for the whole class without messing them up once! Best of all I didn't have to sit an concentrate on them rather I just let them come...sort of took my head out of the equation. My guntings are coming along pretty well too.
New blood Stumbled upon this communtiy today and thought I would give you all a quick post. I am new to the Filipino arts but loving every minute of them. I have started taking Panatukan and Kali at the Minnesota Kali Group with Rick Faye about a year ago.
I love every class even if a lot of it is going over my head just now.
Also: we have a seminar with Dan Inosanto coming up the weekend of February 10-11th. info on the location and cost of the seminar can be found here: http://www.mnkali.com
I don't know how many of you guys in this group train Kali(arnis, escrima, sayoc, etc.) but I saw a video that BLEW MY MIND. SAYOC KALI STICK GRAPPLING.
Now I love to train. I try my best to train safely so that I can carry the legacy my instructor is leaving me. BUT THIS VIDEO! Oh man!
So it shows these four guys who are Sayoc Gurus doing "stick grappling" techniques. Most of these involve closing range and then using the stick for headlocks, ankle locks, and chokes.
But in the video they are not at all polite to their partners. It is intense. I mean whoa!
One of the techniques is the "PEZ dispenser". Imagine a clothesline with the stick hand. Now with the forearm in the guys throat and your stick behind him, you slap the end of your stick downward, cranking the guys chin up- then clothsline again driving him into the ground!!
The point is that he drives his partner to the mat- HARD!
NOW ON TO THE GOOD STUFF! They do stick sparring... in the forest. Not like the DOG Brothers. They do completely NO PADDING!! No elbow pads or helmets or nothing. And they go 10% less than 110% hard contact. They fight till someone says 'uncle'. They are swinging sticks and busting each other up. One of the fights goes to the ground(well they all go down, it's stick grappling) and the guy loses his stick. He keeps control of the man on top until he can wiggle himself towards this piece of tree in the leaves- then he picks it up and jams it into the back of this dude's neck!! AWW.
One guy gets another in a guillotine and is getting pushed around, so he lets go of the choke and steps to the side- slamming the guys head into a tree!!
Then this serious guy, "Mendez", loses his stick. So he puts his hands up, a little outward like Thai boxing, and just lets the dude ratta-tat his knuckles! Everytime he gets hit on the hand they cut to a shot of Mendez doing push ups on his kali stick. He just takes these shots to the fist like it was a pool noodle.
SO!!! The point of the story is that if you are going to train: Train Hard. I believe that. But to me- these guys are training stupid. All it takes is the wrong shot at the wrong moment for a guy to get the tip of a stick in the eye. A debilitating shot to the hand would leave you unable to traing for months. In my opinion, you need to take care of your partner as much as yourself. It's ok to do some sparring, it's ok go a little hard. But there's overkill.
Credit where it's due: these guys are awesome. They're tough, and they have skill. I can not say that I would take shots that these guys were taking. The video was seriously bloody!
Muay Thai v Yaw-Yan Aridigma Hi guys, for those that train Muay thai. . .come on, I know some of you guys practice mixed martial arts. What is the differences between Yaw Yan Aridigma and Muay thai. To me, the moves look really similar to each other. Aside from our fighting stances, I can't see much differences. I don't know about a lot about Muay Thai, but I do have some limited knowledge on yaw yan. Could someone elaborate some of the fighting stances, the motions of how thai's kick, and some of the general mechanics of Thai practioners? Then, maybe we could share notes on the differences of each other.
As for the motions of the kick. I know that yaw yan practioners, raise the knee and keeping the calfs touching the hams (called clipping) and pointing the instep down. then, the clipped knee turns counter clockwise so that the clipped knee is parallel to the ground. At the same time the torso, and FOOT turns nysnc with the turning of the clipped knee. From there the clipped knee is then swung outward in the same fashion a door hinge works. This is all done in in one fluid motion and not step-by-step as it seems when I describe in words. This is a middle round house snap with the shin being the main weapon that attacks the side of the opponent. This is the main kick used in kicboxing tournments for Yaw Yan. The same motions are for the the lower roundhouse snap and for upper snaps, but of course w/ different variations of the degree the clipped knee is turned.
I understand that Thai's have a similiar strike with the shin, but I haven't been able to observe closely just exactly what they do. Can somebody explain what they do?
I can explain why we go through the motions of our front round has snaps. First we clip the knee because if in close quarter combat, we can proceed to a knee strike and/or as the guy backs up from the blow, can proceed to snapping the leg and hitting him/her with the shin. The twisting of the torso and the foot is for added torque.
Anyways. . .any info. would be greatly appreciated.
Modern Arnis So this community has more or less been in the waste land for several months, only to be awakened by some one training in the Philippines.
One thing I wanted to see if anyone here has every done Modern Arnis. Its had quite the diffusion through out the united states and I wanted to see everyones take on it. I train in it and with Remy Presas's succesor, I've heard people hate it and people love it. Whats this communities few?
Yaw-Yan Aridigma Hey guys, I was wondering if Yaw-Yan Aridigma could be included in the discusions. Afterall, it is a filipino martial Art--in fact the official kickboxing or marital Art for the philippines and it's police. The name Yaw Yan is short for "Sayaw ng Kamatayan" which means dance of death and Aridigma is Short for "Arnis" and "Pandigma". Most Yaw Yan practioners are well trained in arnis/escrima/kali. Anyways, I'm still new to the sport and was curious if anyone on here practices Yaw Yan because for the most part, it is only known and practiced exclusively in the Philippines. So Moderators, What say you?
I just wanted to share some of marital arts clips I've found while searching the net. I've posted them on my personal myspace page. This isn't some solicitation to add people on my friend account there. I simply wanted to share clips I find intresting as a martial artist. enjoy!!
Warning: Some of the clips from youtube.com plays faster than it loads. If you find it skipping press pause and let the load bar fill a little ahead.
Footwork I just joined the group and am looking forward to the discussions.
Okay, we're all familiar with the concept of male and female triangles, shuffle stepping and various kinds of footwork. We know how to fight from the open and closed chamber in any combination of feet. So let's broach a new topic (to this forum; I'm sure it's been discussed elsewhere) in the area of Filipino Martial Arts-how is it relevant to firearms?
Keep in mind that majority of firefights take place within about seven yards, and the majority of those are within touching (what firearms instructors call "Bad breath") distance. Also keep in mind that it is common to find unarmed strikes or firearms as impact weapons during the course of the firefight? So why wouldn't it be relevant to firearms, especially handguns?
I find that a female triangle closed chamber is very relevant during these bad breath distance drills, especially if you carry a pistol on the crossdraw. Also, a number 8 strike from that position is not only possible but largely unavoidable. Also, how similar are your knife draws to your pistol draws?
I'd like to hear any techniques you guys might have seen or come up with, and perhaps hear some drills that can be done with dummy guns. (Note: Please train responsibly with firearms) If there's sufficient interest in the topic, we could do something ambitious like a photo gallery of workable techniques.
Looking for traditional FMA. Hi everyone. Thought I'd post and say hello and how's it goin'. I am a student of the FMA and am looking for a traditional school in the Metro DC-No.Va. area. I'm looking for a school with a documented curriculum, traceable roots, and a set style that one can master before mixing other things into it. This might sound like a lot but if you know of an instructor who comes close or maybe even better in your opinion please pass the word along. I haven't picked up the sticks in a few years and I never finished my training before so I need a school with a knowledgeable teacher who can use what I know and add to it in his or her own way. The goal here for me is to know one complete system before I start mucking around with it and watering it down. I know we all add our own elements and personalities to the styles we learn as we translate them in our minds and review them for ourselves but I'd like a starting point. I practice solo baston corto and medio, as well as some espada y daga stuff. I'd like to find a similar system. Other systems I'd like to have in my library are largo mano, cadena de mano, inayan system, and de cuerdas. A word for current students especially young ones. If you are practicing a style that offers a certificate of completion for Guro do it. Finish it. I passed on the opportunity years ago and am trying to play catch up now. When something reaches out and grabs you by the soul and you know you Love it take care to spend the time on it or you may lose the opportunity. Have fun. Stay Sticky. Peace and Rattan grease. Fumanchoo. firstname.lastname@example.org
I am helping a colleague conduct research on a group in the Philippines known as “Pulahan.” I do know that in Filipino Martial Arts, the term refers to the handle or butt of a weapon, but I don’t know much else than that.
Any books, references, leads, or suggestions for further research would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!